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Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:57 pm
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:40:10 +0100, Mermelijn_at_RM.invalid wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:23:28 +0100, Spook van Rook
spooksel_at_xs4all.nl> wrote:
Mermelijn_at_RM.invalid wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:15:53 +0100, "KE" <klaase01_at_home.nl
wrote:
"PieterW" <pieterw4809-notthis-@live.nl> schreef in bericht
news:8bp3m5p1hl36tcai8rb8iidk4si9pnt0fq_at_4ax.com...
psies, frauderen in de baas z´n tijd, meineed plegen, de
privacywetgeving aan de laars lappen, zakken vullen, het met 3000
ICTers nog presteren hun netwerk te saboteren.
Diverse van die ICT'ers verdienen dan ook maar 4x de Balkenende norm.
Ik zoek al enkele jaren naar een camerablokker. Ik wil zo'n ding
graag hebben en ik meen dat volkomen serieus. Hij mag wat mij
betreft 1000 euro kosten.
Als de overheid zich niet aan de wet houdt, keer op keer, en als
er steeds meer camera's in de wijken komen (die -bewezen- GEEN
effect hebben op preventie), dan neem ik graag mijn eigen
maatregelen.
Heeft iemand zo'n toestel al een keer ontdekt? Het zal niet zo
simpel zijn, want camera's bestaan tegenwoordig vrijwel volledig
uit wat lenzen en chips, en het storen door een sterk
elektromagnetisch veld is dus vrijwel onmogelijk. Het zal met
licht moeten. Een soort magnetron die met één welgemikte bundel
de elektronica geheel uitschakelt of een laser die de CCD-chip
stukbrandt, is ook wel goed maar heeft niet mijn voorkeur. Ik
acteer namelijk graag fatsoenlijk, in tegenstelling tot de
overheid die deze spionnage allemaal zit te bedenken.
LEES OOK dit zeer interessante stukje:
http://www.security.nl/artikel/24673/1/Digitale_ongehoorzaamheid.html
Daarin staat dat je volledig buiten de maatschappij komt te
staan, als je aan alle moderne privacy-schendende systemen niet
mee wenst te doen.
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Mermelijn
Zo'n camerablokker heb ik niet nodig, want het blijkt dat spoken toch niet
gefilmd kunnen worden.
Geacht Spook,
Op het eerste gezicht zou men kunnen zeggen: jij boft.
Maar helaas. Volgens het artikel waar ik naar verwees, en waar ik
achter sta, zijn mensen die niet waarneembaar zijn, automatisch
verdacht. Sorry, maar je bent dus verdacht.
Post Scriptum
Message to Echelon: I hate governments spying on me!
And read this:
http://www.security.nl/artikel/24673/1/Digitale_ongehoorzaamheid.html
Sorry - you have to ask your Dutch interpreters to read it. It
is true and you know it, if you have a heart.
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Mermelijn